
When grief fills the room like a flood, when the trauma that's been buried for years finally surfaces… When they look at you with the big eyes of a scared little child, silently asking: Can you hold this?
Can you?
Not with a technique, a script, or the perfect reframe or the right question. Can you hold them with your presence?
Because that's what deep healing needs. We are taught to have answers and tools, but at the core of healing is the need for someone who can be the solid ground when everything else is shaking.
Someone who can witness, hold, guide, and love without feeling lost, scared, or overwhelmed.
Every year, thousands of people are certified in coaching techniques.
They learn frameworks, questions, models, scripts.
Because no one taught them how to be when a client floods.
How to remain grounded when someone dissociates.
How to hold space for rage without absorbing it.
How to care without attachment.
How to witness shadow without flinching.
And how not to bring it all home, like a heavy blanket they cannot shake.
So they do what they were trained to do: they try to fix. They offer solutions. They give advice. They redirect to the positive. They keep things surface-level because going deeper feels unsafe.
And their clients stay stuck.
They were taught techniques when what they needed first was the capacity to be a safe home for another human being.
This is what's missing in coaching, therapy, and healing work everywhere.
Over 5 phases, you'll learn to become the kind of practitioner whose very presence creates the conditions for transformation.
After this training you will have developed the capacity to:
without absorbing their collapse into yours
grief, rage, shame, terror—without needing to fix it or make it stop, so that true healing can happen
the kind of safety that happens in your body first, then extends into the room
to be fully present with someone's pain without needing them to heal on your timeline because you cannot stand it anymore, or because you don't know how to "get them out of it" safely
to see someone clearly without overlaying your own story, your own needs, your own unhealed parts and patters
so you can do deep work without burning out, taking on their trauma, or losing yourself in the process
This is more than just learning what to do, it's about becoming the kind of person who not just hold depth, but confidently navigating through its many layers.
Most training programs front-load content. This program inverts that entirely.
Every phase is about deepening your capacity to BE with someone in their transformation, and practice it with others so that it becomes second nature (find more below in the page).
You cannot hold space for someone else until you can hold it for yourself.
This phase is about building your own internal architecture of safety and learning how to be the steady presence someone needs when their world is falling apart.
What you're learning:
By the end of this phase, you're no longer trying to DO something to make them feel safe. You know how safety feels in your body and know how to ground yourself.
When new clients meet me for the first time, they often apologize for crying "I'm so sorry" they would say "I never cry, I don't even know what's going on". This is the power of presence and how it allows wounds and fears to show themselves, even with a "stranger" they have never met before.
Most practitioners listen with their ears. You're going to learn to listen with your whole body: I call it Sensing. This phase teaches you to track what's happening in the room—not just in words, but in breath, posture, energy, the space between sentences.
You will feel when someone is moving toward dissociation before they know it themselves, and to sense when shutdown is happening under a smile, learning to navigate the subtle dynamics of the relational space.
What you're learning:
By the end of this phase, you will stop being a sponge and start being a container, with a clear sense of you that is separate from them.
"When Mike's grief finally surfaced after 40 years of 'being fine,' he looked at me with terror in his eyes, as if the grief might destroy him. I didn't try to make it smaller, or redirect him to gratitude or growth. I didn't feel scared, I knew exactly how to welcome it, as I sat with him in his grief like it was the most natural thing in the world. I invited him to get closer to it, to feel it deeply, to let it take over. And as it did, he cried his heart out and collapsed on the floor until there were no tears left. That's when he could finally see what was underneath all that grief, and reconnect with that baby who felt abandoned and unloved. It was Mike's turn to hold space, this time for a young part of himself."
This phase is about learning to hold the complexity of a human being—the parts that are at war, the parts that contradict, the parts someone has spent their whole life trying to avoid.
You'll learn how to be the "Loving Mother" or "Wise Attachment Figure"—the archetype of unconditional love that most people never received and desperately need to truly heal.
What you're learning:
You're not the healer. You're the presence that allows them to find the healer within.
This phase is for the most self-protected clients—the ones who can explain their trauma in perfect detail but can't feel it. The ones who live entirely in their heads because their bodies feel too dangerous.
You'll learn how to work with sensation, image, metaphor, and creative expression to befriend the mind and access what's stored in the body.
What you're learning:
This is where you learn to follow the thread even when you don't know where it leads.
This phase we go into the depths: trauma, shadow, the parts no one wants to touch. These are the places most practitioners avoid because they don't know how to navigate in, out, and through them.
You'll learn how to be comfortable in the dark, trusting you know the way through.
What you're learning:
By the end of this phase, you're no longer afraid of what might emerge. You trust yourself, and your presence, to hold it.
By the end of the journey, you're no longer becoming. You are.
This training is about being rather than doing. "Being" doesn't get prompted, it cannot be performed or pretended. It needs to come from within.
And this is why it needs to become second nature.
Below are all the ways that will support and allow your Presence and your capacity to facilitate Depth to become second nature.
Experiential sessions to learn, feel, and ask questions. You'll feel the work in your own nervous system, practice holding space in real time, and integrate what you're learning in your body—not just your mind.
Small group sessions where you practice being the presence someone needs. You'll take turns being practitioner, client, and witness. You get to choose how often you meet and practice.
Bring your real or practice sessions, your "I froze when this happened" moments. Get individual guidance on your specific way of holding space and practical feedback to improve. Practice in real time with direct feedback.
A private space for the cohort to process, ask questions, share insights, and support each other between sessions. You'll never be alone in this work.
Protocols, guided practices, and materials to use for yourself and your clients. Updated continuously.
Life always gets in the way. This training takes it into account, so that you don't end up overwhelmed or fall behind. Every 3 weeks of training you get a week to rest, catch up, reset, and start fresh on the next cycle.
While presence is the foundation, having a toolkit of evidence-based modalities deepens your capacity to meet different clients where they are.
As part of the founding cohort, you'll receive these bonus workshops throughout the training and be able to participate LIVE and ask your questions.
These resources are designed to deepen your practice, expand your toolkit, and provide ongoing support as you step into this transformative work.
Internal Family Systems is, even after 12+ years of research, the most transformative and effective model I have used (both personally and professionally).
It allows for ease and clarity even in very challenging situations, with any kind of client.
What you're learning:
This special workshop brings everything together: ethics, boundaries, sustainability, and your identity as a facilitator of depth.
You'll learn how to structure your practice so you can do deep work without burning out, and how to trust you are and know enough to do this work.
What you're learning:
As part of the founding cohort, you'll receive these bonus workshops (each 2-4 hours) throughout the training and be able to participate LIVE and ask your questions.
A toolkit of somatic exercises and nervous system regulation practices you can use in session when someone is flooded, frozen, or dissociated. Or for yourself in-between sessions to get back to your Presence.
How to use imagery, metaphor, and creative modalities to access what the analytical mind is defending against.
Mapping the client's system, doing a trauma-informed history intake, and knowing when to refer out.
(for practitioners exploring expanded consciousness work) How to safely prepare for and integrate insights from non-ordinary states (including psychedelic experiences) into healing.
As part of the first cohort you will get to shape the training. Whatever emerges as a need will shape the content of this last workshop.
You are just starting out, or in training:
Maybe you're already working with clients. Maybe you're in training. Maybe you've been the person everyone comes to when they're falling apart. Wherever you are, you know: this is the time to go all-in and become what your heart has been asking for.
You've seen too many practitioners performing competence, offering unhelpful advice, redirecting to the positive because they can't hold the dark. You know there's a different way.
This isn't about helping people set goals or optimize their routines. This is about the deep, transformational work that touches the core wounds we spend our lives avoiding.
You're afraid of going too deep, of opening something you can't close, of retraumatizing someone. This training will teach you how to navigate those fears—not by avoiding depth, but by building your capacity to hold it.
You cannot hold space for someone else's shadow if you're running from your own. This training requires you to face your darkness, your defenses, your unhealed parts.
You are already a coach, therapist, or professional, but:
After sessions, you feel drained. You carry people's pain home. You don't know where you end and they begin. You need to learn how to hold space without taking it on.
You cannot hold space for someone else's shadow if you're running from your own. This training requires you to face your darkness, your defenses, your unhealed parts.
You can analyze anything. But you know transformation happens in the body, in the felt sense, in the places words can't reach. You want to learn how to bridge that gap, for yourself and your clients.
You are tired of shallow solutions or models that don't teach you how to be with your clients from a grounded and confident place.
You are ready for more.
You cannot guide someone into their depths if you haven't been willing to go into yours.
If you're looking for a program that teaches you techniques and reflection questions, there are better fits. This is about becoming a different kind of practitioner.
If your vision is life coaching, goal-setting, positive psychology—there are excellent programs for that. This is for practitioners who want to go deeper.
You are attached to the idea of having all the answers, you love giving advice, and you'd rather talk about things than going deeper into how they feel underneath.
This is an investment in becoming a different kind of practitioner: one who can hold true depth and lead to true healing.
Join the 1st cohort for a huge discount. Instead of $3.497, you pay:
Both options grant you full access to all modules, workshops, and community support. Choose the path that best supports your journey.
I want you to feel completely confident in your decision to join the Depth Practitioner Training.
Join the program, experience the first two weeks, immerse yourself in the content, and connect with the community. If, for any reason, you feel this training isn't the right fit for you, simply email me within 15 days of your purchase for a full refund.
This cohort has only 12 spots to ensure individualized feedback and supervision.
Fill-out this questionnaire. It will help me understand where you are, what you're working with, and whether this training is the right container for your development.
If your application resonates, I'll invite you to a brief call. We'll feel into alignment, you can ask everything you need to know, and we'll both feel into whether this the right fit.
If we both feel it's a yes, I'll send your enrollment link. Choose your payment option and receive your welcome materials immediately (including the full Internal Family Systems training).
If you've been called to this work, this is your invitation.
I'm a Change Expert (MA), Certified Level 3 Internal Family Systems (IFS) Practitioner, Psychedelic Somatic Interactional Therapist (PSIP), and Psychedelic Assisted Therapy facilitator.
I'm also a polymath, lover of learning, mother of twins, and life-obsessed human being. What started as a journey into my own healing from generalized anxiety became a longing to belong. To me. To others. To this world and life. Ultimately to this feeling of joyful expansion that life can be.
Underneath all the labels and trainings lays the simple wish to FEEL ALIVE. A journey that led me into meeting all of me, and understanding why so much of me was hidden away and buried deep down.
I learned to fell and follow my heart towards dreams that felt too big, wishes that felt too scary, and made them my reality, one by one.
I've research and trained in more models I can remember, and I've worked for years in private practice, guiding others to those scary places, sitting with them in the dark, so that they could also find their own light, warmth, and love.
The most brilliant, defended, analytically-minded people you'll ever meet find their way to my armchair.
The high-functioning and successful on paper people. Completely disconnected from their bodies and their deepest wounds, and a shaky or non-existing sense of who they are underneath all the protection. A description that also fit me over a decade ago.
They'd been to therapists who used the right techniques but couldn't go deep enough. They'd worked with coaches who kept things positive because going deeper felt dangerous. They'd done years of talk therapy that helped them understand their trauma but never felt it, never integrated it, never let it move through their system.
What they needed, and what they all said after working with me, wasn't another technique, but someone who could be a safe, loving, and welcoming home.
Someone who could hold space:
Someone who felt so steady that they could finally let themselves collapse—knowing there was solid ground to land on.
No. This teaches you how to hold transformational space—which therapists, coaches, healers, and facilitators all need. You will also learn techniques and tools, but the focus is presence.
That's fine. This training is about building capacity, expanding your awareness (in yourself and others), and learning how to hold space. It will prepare you in the best possible way for when you will feel ready to start working with clients.
Yes, absolutely. Just make sure you also have some time to rest and reflect, as this work tends to bring unresolved material to the surface.
Perfect. This will teach you what those certifications couldn't: how to embody the presence that makes those tools effective. We can explore whether this is a good fit in our application call.
Yes. You will get access to a full 11-hour Internal Family Systems training that will teach you how to use the most effective model to facilitate depth. You will learn the tools AND how to be present at the same time - this is the most powerful combo.
Are you ready to become the presence that creates transformation?
Depth Practitioner Training